Study Abroad

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So I'm going to talk about Geneva.

I mean, Geneva is my baby.

Definitely,

I would say. I’ve taken this,

a similar trip myself many, many years ago
when I was doing

my master's in international health
at Humboldt University in Germany.

And so I, was, instrumental

to proposing this trip
and making it a reality.

You can visit Geneva,
you know, and have a great time.

But if you will not be part of our group,
you would never be able to go inside

major global health organizations

and interact with, these individuals.

It's just, it's hard to get in,

and hard to secure the time and space,
with these individuals

and these interactions
are truly transformative.

And it's not my statement,

it's what our students told us

after the trip.
We go inside World Health Organization.

We not only tour the building and learn
about its history and current priorities,

we sit and observe part of the

live World Health Organization session.

And it's fascinating
to hear different countries

raising different issues
and how they work through the process

to come up with one document

that all organizations
that are part of World Health Organization

would eventually sign and agree
that they will do it.

And so when I was part of the group,
we listened in on a session

that was dedicated
to drafting sort of a treaty

that would

outline how countries would cooperate
and share resources

in case we have another Covid 19 outbreak.

It was fascinating
how they were trying to make sure that

developing countries
and low income countries would have a fair

share of vaccines
and sort of all those other

key issues
related and protective equipment.

So it was just eye opening to do that.

We also visit
several United Nations organizations.

Again, we go in and we talk to people

who are doing,

who are implementing global

health initiatives in different regions,
who share their struggles

and successes, share their passion,

try to tell us what's going to happen
in the next decade or so.

Again,
you're not going to get it anywhere else.

We also meet with several
non-governmental organizations

who are major players in

global health,
including Doctors Without Borders.

And just getting into this,
building alone,

it's a treat.

It's like a museum because you can walk in
and see what they need to set up.

A hospital in the middle of nowhere.

And they share their war stories
from working in different

parts of the world
that were not always safe.

And, they share their successes and,

inspire students

to consider doing something similar.

And, you know, this is a long list, but,

as I said, it's
just a truly, remarkable experience.

One thing that I want to address

that some students raised
is that what about getting around,

and no one speaks English?

In Geneva, it's a very international city.

Everybody speaks English

because there are all this
major agencies there, and you would hear

40,000 different languages
while you're working on the streets.

But if you stop someone and ask a question
in English and they would respond to you

that they would give you directions,
they would even walk with you.

Swiss
people are very friendly and approachable.

And Geneva is also extremely safe.

Like when we will talk about safety.

There is one area

where we would recommend you don't go,
but it's really out of the way.

So you'd have to be very dedicated and
committed to finding trouble to get there.

Otherwise, you know, the,
you know, the area where we stay

and a central part
of the city is very safe,

very easy to navigate.

Our students figure out how busses work
and quite a few

decided that they want to visit
France as well because it's like six bus

stops away
from where we stay in our hotel,

and they say we just want to check that
we've been in yet another country.

And since there are no borders,
it's just a literally, you know,

you drive,
the bus arrives in the stop

and it's technically France already,
and there are quite a few

entertaining places where you could go
in the evening in your spare time.

We also take you to Carouge,
which is a lovely suburb of Geneva,

and give you some time to explore.

So it's
all in all a great experience.

I would highly recommend it.

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I have
to be honest, this is my baby.

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I've participated in this program
many, many times.

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And I would go back to the UK
in a heartbeat if I could.

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It's a wonderful, amazing city.

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The program itself is usually described
as a pretty posh experience.

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The area that we stay
in, is called Bloomsbury.

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It's at the west end of central London,
which is a great location to be.

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It's right outside of Piccadilly.

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There's lots of tube access.

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It's a very safe area.

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And all the times I've been,
I've never felt uncomfortable or concerned

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that something might happen.

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With short term programs,
which is what both of ours are,

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that one week experience,

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we keep you busy.

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Some people believe that with study abroad
programs,

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you have a,

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you've seen this through television
and through things like that,

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that you have a class,
you go sit in class,

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you have someone lecturing at you,
and you get content for a class,

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and then you go and do a test
and you come back

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and you've got credit for this one

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course. That's not the way
short term programs work.

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We have you in offices,

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in all of these different places,
kind of that we've got listed on here.

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So we visit Nuffield Trust and the King's
Fund, which are both think tanks.

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We don't have anything exactly like that
here in the United States.

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But what they do, is
they're looking at data

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that's coming out of the UK,
and they're the ones that are helping

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create new policy.
They're helping to create

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new recommendations
for what policies should be.

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They're looking at the trends, to help
think of what the future is going to be.

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In the past several years, we've gone
to Nuffield Trust and the Representatives.

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We had the same couple of women
that have been there for us.

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And they are young and excited
about reform and change,

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and that has for many students,
they are kind of surprised.

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They're like, oh, researchers,
how dry is that going to be?

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And that's been a highlight
for many students

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because it really shows
what the future is looking at.

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They're always constantly

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trying to predict and figure out
how they're going to make it better.

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And, Sophie and Julian do an amazing job
leading those presentations.

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What's great
about it, again, is it's not theoretical.

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They're looking at real problems
and trying to figure out how

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that's going to be.

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Something that we got to do this year,
for the first time since I've been with

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the programs at all, is
we actually got to get into a hospital.

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Since Covid, that has become more
and more exceedingly challenging.

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They're just not letting student groups
in like they used to.

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And so the fact that we got to actually
get in this year to get into hospitals,

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it was a really amazing experience,
especially for those students

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that are interested
in doing the clinical aspect.

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So whether you're pre-med, nursing,
any of those,

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getting to talk to physicians
about what medical school looks like there

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or what their loan looks like,
or what it feels like to have

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these massive case
loads, or, it's very common

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knowledge that right now in the UK,
physician burnout is a massive issue.

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And so, getting to talk
to these physicians one on one

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about what that looks like, how they're
dealing with it, how the system is broken,

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and the kind of that patient experience

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is a really cool, interesting opportunity.

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We also have gotten

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to talk to social anthropologist,

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that they are looking at,
kind of, culture shapes health care, right?

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I mean, it shapes everything that we do,

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our behavior, our outcomes, the whole access,
it shapes everything.

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And so being able to have
that kind of large overview

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from as social anthropologist,
really ties together very nicely with what

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the research says, what the clinicians
are saying, and in all honesty,

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my favorite aspect of it when we've gone,
and I don't know

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if we'll be able to do that for this show
this year, not this one kind of changes.

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But as a patient panel, we,
get to talk to people

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that are actually UK citizens
about how the NHS works for them,

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what's good, what's bad, what's ugly,
what they like, what they didn't like.

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And for all of the issues
that the NHS has, I can tell you that

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I have never heard one person
come out of there and say, you know

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what, I'm going to go to the US and do
their version of health care delivery.

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They like it, they guard it,

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they want to keep it and they will be
very happy to tell you why.

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And so

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I remember,
just a personal story.

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I remember several years ago,

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we were there
and one of the patients, on the panel,

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she had her brand new little bitty baby
with her, and it was saying that

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when she left the hospital,
her son was still ill, and,

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but it took forever for him to get back in
and do all of the pieces that he needed.

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But she left the hospital
with no medical debt.

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I had just had my youngest son
not long before that, and I was thinking,

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goodness gracious, I left the hospital
and had mountains of debt

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because he was also ill
and had mountains of debt.

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But I got him into all of the physicians
that he needed, all the specialists

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he needed immediately.

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I didn't have any kind of wait times,
so it really left me personally

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thinking as someone again
that has participated in this many times.

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Which is better? How do I like to do this?

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Which one do I want to do?

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You know
these big, deep ethical questions?

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And that's what we're trying to do,

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is we're trying to get
you to talk to all of these people

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so that you are thinking about health
care, health

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care delivery in different ways.

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As you move into this industry,
how can you impact it?

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And all of these people are going to have
you kind of help you think about that.

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That's our goal.

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And then the final kind of group of people

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that we're going to meet with
are the policy makers and, Doctor Nicholas

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Mayes, who is now with us for many years,
he's faculty at King's College.

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He's amazing and he is so personable.

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And I've had students that after
the program still reach out to him,

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with questions and concerns,
and he wants to be a part of these.

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And so a good number of the faculty
that we've reached out to our speakers,

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pardon me,
like to have those ongoing conversations.

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So, I know that's a lot, but it gives
you kind of a taste of who we talk to,

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what we do, what we see, kind of
what we're doing, while we're there.

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Each day looks a little bit

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different because of the different places
that we're going.

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I could say that last year,

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And we're doing hopefully again
this year is we're going to have a trip,

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out to Oxford.

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We wrap up the week with a high tea.

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So we try to incorporate
some of those cultural aspects.

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And just because we keep you busy
does not mean that we don't try to

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also give you a little bit of downtime
to go to all those other cultural pieces,

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you know,

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many people,

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because this is the first time
that they've gone,

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they want to do this

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other things that they want to go
see the changing of the guard.

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Do you want to go to Buckingham Palace?

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You want to go see a big band,
you want to do all of those pieces.

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And so we try to have a nice balance
where you get to be able to go do

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those cultural pieces on your own,

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but also still be very active
and participate in what we want.

Description of the video:

So now, what about our programs
and health care,

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simply put, it's one of the biggest
issues in every country.

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It's politics. It's money.

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It's literal life and death.

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And how every country solves the issue

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of how they make their citizens
as healthy as possible is solved

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vastly different.

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And the United States
health care is expensive and lots of people

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are left behind.

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People go bankrupt every single day
because of medical debt.

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The UK has a system, the NHS
in which everyone is covered,

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but they have really long waitlists
and wait times to get in to see people.

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The Swiss system

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Looks incredibly different
from both of them.

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And so what,

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Who's right? Who's wrong?

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What system is the best?
Which one is the worst?

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And with our programs,
that's not what we look at.

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We try to expose students to all of it.

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Right.

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We want you to be able to see the good,
the bad

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and the ugly in all of those systems.
In the US system,

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there are good things
that come out of our system.

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Right, there are great, amazing,
wonderful things,

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and there are some really bad things.

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But the same thing happens
with all of this other programs.

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And when students come and ask me,
so tell me about your program,

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what does that mean?

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My statements used to be,
well, it's an international,

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it's an introduction
to global health systems,

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or it's comparative health care systems.

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And those are just a lot of words
without a lot of meaning,

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without some serious context to them.

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And that's what we try to do, is

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we provide context to what those words
actually mean.

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As a future health care leader,

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whether it is going to be in a clinical
setting or is it going to be,

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working for policy,

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is it going to be in a health care
related business organization?

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We try to get you over there,

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wherever over there is for you and,
see how those systems work.

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If you want to make changes here,
we believe that you need to see

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what the rest of the world looks like,
what they're doing to truly understand it.

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No matter what you read in the textbook.

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It's never going to give you
the same perspective as you get

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when we take you across
the other side of the pond.

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The questions that we deal
with, the issues that we look at,

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are not abstract, philosophical questions,

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they're real debates
that are happening every single day.

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And to very loosely quote Hamilton,

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you need to be in the room
where it happens.

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You need to at least have an understanding
of what happens in the room where

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it happens.

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You need to understand
why decisions are made,

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who makes those decisions, who benefits
from those decisions that are being made.

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As a living, breathing human being,

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You need to understand
what health care looks like

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and what the future of it,
and all of that matters to you.

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And so understanding how those decisions
are made and being able to make better

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decisions are being a part of the process
that makes better decisions for

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our country is one of the most impactful
things that you can do.

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And that's what we're trying to do,
is try to open you up

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so you can understand those big picture
things that are going on.

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Sorry I

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didn't change the slide there
to talk about it, but,

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our program is a one week

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short term program
that happens over spring break.

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All students
that participate in our program are

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required to register for a three credit
hour public health course.

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And, we will talk about here
in just a second

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what that class looks like
and how that works,

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and what the components of that are.

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But essentially we're looking at the past,
present and future of

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not just public
health, but of health care.

Description of the video:

I think the
easiest way to think about our programs

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is, they’re kind of broken down
into three different components.

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The first one are the pre-trip sessions.

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the four pre-trip sessions,
which will take place in the eight weeks

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before spring break,
before we leave on the programs.

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And in those classes,
in those, four pre-trip sessions

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that will happen virtually,

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generally on Friday afternoons,

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We talk about a vast array of topics.

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One the kind of, the largest ones
we talk about

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is what the US health care system
looks like.

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There's a lot of people
that don't understand what a deductible

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is, what a premium is, how a copay works,
what dual insurance looks like.

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And if we are trying to build,

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we need to build that context for you
in our country,

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so that when you,
are a part of the program, you are able

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to kind of compare and contrast
and understand what that looks like there.

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Secondly, we discuss

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the health care systems of the country
that we're visiting, and this is

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going to be not quite as in-depth
as we talk about here in our country,

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because a lot of that content
is going to happen while we're overseas.

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But we still want to make sure that you
have a good basis and a good grounding of

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what those systems look like,
what we will talk about.

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The two spring break trips
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the class sessions
will meet at the same time.

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And so that's really great
because you're going to be able

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to not just see what health care
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in the country that you're visiting,
but also in the other country.

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So it gives you a little bit
more breadth of knowledge

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as we're planning and preparing
for the programing.

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The third, which is also another fairly

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heavy component of it, are the logistics.

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Students don't know about
how do we get there?

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How do we fly there?
What do visas look like?

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How does insurance work?

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How do we get to and from the airport?
What money do I need?

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How does my cell phone work
when I'm over there?

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What is safety feel like?

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All of these pieces and parts are
the important aspects of what we discuss.

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And that conversation
is honestly weaved into every week.

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We have a different topic
that we talk about typically, and

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we want to make sure
that you are fully ready to go.

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And then the kind of the fourth aspect to
it, is cultural preparation.

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When you get there, you are not just going
to be a representative of yourself,

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you are going to be a representative
of the United States

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and the School of Public Health
at Indiana University,

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and we want to make sure
that you are prepared to go

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and make good representation
for all of those people.

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The second component of the three,

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for what our class looks like together
is our time abroad.

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And here, in just a minute,
Olena and I are going to talk about

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specifically
what happens during the UK program

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and what happens
during the Geneva programs.

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But that is the second piece

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is while we are there, and then the third
and final component is after we return.

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And that, in all honesty, is probably
just as important as the other two pieces.

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That's important
because it's about reflection.

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What have you learned?
What is your time away done for you?

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What have you grown or how have you grown,

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pardon me.

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that's really going to kind of carry
through with you as you are done.

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And as someone who has participated in these
programs many times, I can tell you that

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how you have grown is going to not just be
the content of the classes,

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yes, that's very important, but it's going
to be the experience of the travel.

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How did you get to the airport
by yourself?

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Did you take the taxi from the airport,
to the hotel by yourself?

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How did you navigate those systems?

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And it sounds really silly
and I'm fully aware of it,

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but there's a good number of our students
that have never been anywhere

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internationally,
let alone left Indiana,

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let alone go anywhere internationally.

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And so those are all great growth
opportunities for everyone.

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part of that reflection is

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how did that impact you
personally as you were moving on?

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that's what's important to note
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are not just a touristy program
with, classes tacked on.

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It's really about
what happens in the other country.

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It's something so much more specific
than just that class piece.

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It's about comparing those health
care systems, and you're doing it

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in the room with the people
who live inside of those systems.

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I know that that's a lot,
and it's very heavy and I'm very sorry,

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but now it's kind of the fun part
about what we actually get to do each week

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while we're there.

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And that's like,
I think that's the best part of it.

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Students often say, okay,
so what's other than just the fact

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that we're going to UK or going to Geneva?

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What's the difference between them?

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when we as a school are developing

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health care or study abroad programs,
we try to look at the

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the countries that we're visiting
and what makes each system unique.

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So whether you're participating

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in the UK program or the Geneva program,
or if it were one of our programs

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that we've retired to Norway
or to Nicaragua, what makes them special?

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What makes them unique?

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With the UK program, it's the NHS.

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How can they deliver free health
care to all of their citizens

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when we can't do anything near
like that, near that in the United States?

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that looks like. For the Geneva program,
it’s a much higher view.

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It's that much more 10,000ft view
looking at,

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what policy looks like, internationally

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and how organizations within the UN
and the World Health Organization.

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When countries are so unique
in their delivery systems

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and their country needs,
then how can they create policies

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that help oversee
everybody and everything?

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And so that's really what those
programs are looking at,

Description of the video:

I think
that the easiest way to start with one of the

most common questions
I get is, who can apply to our program?

And the very simple answer to that
is anyone can apply to our programs.

Within the School of Public Health,
we encourage students,

of course, public health
students are encouraged to apply, but,

the students reach out to me
all the time and say,

but I'm not a public health major.

I don't have any public health experience,

Am I going to actually be eligible
to apply?

And yes, the simple answer is yes.

That does not matter, we want you there.

One of the basic tenets of public health

is our collaboration, is who we work with.

And, so if you know anything

about public health, you see that
it is nurses, it's doctors, it's

researchers, it's policymakers
working together to help decide

how we policy or how programs
should be implemented and move forward.

A lot of that is clinicians,
in our programs,

and our study abroad programs,
we typically are pretty heavy

with students that are,
in the school of science and one of the pre

health professions, nursing,
we have a ton of nursing students.

Students that are in health sciences or
international development-type programs.

And the perspectives that you provide
really add a lot to our class content.

We, the depth of the conversations that
we have are a lot greater because of that.

And just because you don't have
a public health background, that's okay.

In our pre-trip sessions that we'll
kind of talk about here in a few minutes,

we'll talk about how we account for that
and make sure that you are ready to go

when the programs actually launch
and what that looks like.

The other, kind of really common question
I get is,

and then the way it's
written on the application,

for those who have looked at it,
is underclassmen and upperclassmen.

We want both underclassmen
and upperclassmen equally.

We we fill our programs,
we would rather have an underclassmen

that is engaged and ready
and wanting to participate,

as opposed to an upperclassmen
that maybe isn't quite as ready for that.

Just because they have less time to study.

We want to make this
a strong trip for everybody.

So if you are an underclassman,
if you're a freshman or sophomore,

don't be discouraged by that.

We still strongly encourage you
to apply, for our programs.

Description of the video:

I'm also going to show you really quickly
how you apply

where Via is in the system
and what that looks like.

Before I jump into that,
I'm going to tell you that

we have two important deadlines,
that you need to look at.

The first is the priority deadline,
which is October 1st,

just about a week away.

The priority deadline
is that first round of consideration.

Any spots that are still available
after that October 1st deadline,

We will definitely consider.

And with the university
final deadline being November 1.

Our programs are, well they're
fairly large, but they typically fill.

And so, if you want that strongest
full consideration,

I encourage you to try to get in
by that October 1st deadline.

But if something happens
and you can't do it, then

don't assume that you're dead in the water
because there definitely will,

there's usually still opportunity
after that deadline.

And I'm going to

just jump out of here really quickly
and go over to the study abroad website

and show you how to navigate a little bit.

When you go to the study abroad website.

This is the home landing page.

And if you were to click over here
on Program Search,

it's going to take you a page
that looks like this.

And we want to click here
where it says IU Indianapolis

Program List. It will take you to a page.

And I'll just go ahead and get there, that list,

all of the programs that are available
through the university this year.

If you scroll down here, spring
break 2027,

our programs are kind of down here
at the end.

They're just listed alphabetically.

And so UK health systems around the world

and then the Switzerland
health systems around the world.

And when you click on either

of those, it will take you to into Via
into what is called the brochure.

The brochure is
where you can actually apply,

where it has the official information
on funding and costs,

eligibility deadlines,
all of those pieces and parts.

And then the application is right

over here under apply.

So that's a lot of information,

but I think that it's important
that you've been able to at least see

what the application system looks like,
and how you get into it.

The system,
we found, is really pretty intuitive.

And if you have questions,
you can always reach out to me.

And my information is right here
down to the bottom of the screen,

lwissel@iu.edu

Or you can reach out to the study
abroad office at abroad.iu.edu

either
one of us can help you kind of navigate

what the system looks like
and how it works.

But, you know,

as I've said to you multiple times
throughout the program, today

and as we've kind of we've seen
is that

you're going to be meeting people
that run global health systems.

And we mean that
in the most literal way.

It's not through a screen.

It's in a classroom. It's in person.

You're going to be able
to ask some questions.

You're going to be able to

watch how they think
and why they make the decisions they do.

They're going to help you understand
what their constraints look like.

You're going to hear the things that
keep them awake at night.

These are really
the things that are going to change

how you see the world,
professionally, academically, personally.

If you're thinking about a career
in health, whether it's public

health, health administration, health
policy, NGOs, international development,

any of that, you can't do better than this
kind of a program.

We're really exposing you firsthand
to what all of those people are doing

and how they're doing it,
and for the most part,

want to make the systems better,
genuinely better for everyone involved.

And so if you're looking at
that kind of country specific, something

like what the UK has with the NHS,
if you're looking at that broader scale,

than the Geneva program,
that might be a really great way to do it.

Any of these ways, you're
going to get to see it in real time.

Not the textbook version of it
but the actual messy, complicated,

incredible, wonderful, horrible,
all of these words, versions of it.

So if you're curious and you're serious
and you want to do this

and you want to understand the way
the whole system works, then apply.

We want you there. We want to take you.

We want to be a part
of that experience for you.

Description of the video:

Okay, so
cost. This is always the hard part.

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This is the part
that's not necessarily fun,

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but it's
one of the most important parts.

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The next couple of slides outline
the fees for the programs.

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And these are also listed on the Via
study abroad website.

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The application,

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and we'll kind of walk through that
here in a few minutes as well.

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But this is just a basic breakdown
of what the fees look like.

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And there are the bottom line
cost here.

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So this program for
the UK is about $6,400.

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And Geneva
program is about the same amount

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But then, yeah, 50 bucks of each other.

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And that is,

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an estimated amount.
The fees that are listed up here

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at the top under the billable fees
are the ones that are the non-negotiables.

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The program fee is what is

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what you pay directly to the university

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that goes directly to your study
abroad, to your, student bursary account,

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excuse me.

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And that covers all of the things
that we pay for on your behalf.

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So that's going to be local
transportation, your hotels, meals,

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the room rental fees, the speaker fees,
all of the pieces and parts

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that we pay for on your behalf.

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So these fees are parts

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that go directly back to you
in the form of program delivery.

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With the way the university has it set up,

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it goes, again, directly to your bursar, it’s added
directly to your bursar account.

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Insurance is, all students
by university standards are required

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to have international medical insurance.

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And then the study abroad administrative
fee is for the work that the study abroad

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office
does during processing your application.

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Tuition.

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Tuition, if you are a full time
student at IU Indianapolis,

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then you will be covered
under banded tuition,

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12 and 15 credit
hours, the tuition for that three credit,

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our course that we discussed
earlier is not going to be felt,

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you won't be impacted by it.
If you are less than full time,

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or more than full time,
more than that 18 credit hours,

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then you'll pay a per
credit hour fee based upon that.

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But if you're just a regular 12
to 18 credit hour student and this

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keeps you within that band,

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then you will not feel any additional
fee from the course tuition.

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The estimated non-billable fees.

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These are where it gets very,
very flexible and very, very squishy.

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Airfare.

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The airfare is approximately

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what we found that
the fees are going to be this year,

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but every year I am just astounded

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at how, inventive and I don't know,

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creative students
can get on finding better costs than this.

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We have students that are like,
I don't care if I fly from Indiana

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to Kentucky to Texas to Seattle
and then get to the UK, it doesn't matter.

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It's going to cost me $600 to do it
and three days.

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So if you're willing to kind of make some,
you know, flight changes like that,

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then you can definitely find much better
flights than this, cost for this.

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If you already have your passport,

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that's not a few that you're going to need
to pay. Your personal expenses.

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If you're a student that does not want to
bring home all kinds of trinkets and things,

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then you may spend 100 bucks
while you're there doing all of the other

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pieces and parts.

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If you are a student that goes to Geneva
and you going to Paris

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and you want to buy some big Persian
rug, that's $5,000, then it's

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probably going to be a little bit
more than $500 for your personal expenses.

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So really, a lot of that is just depending
upon your personal interest.

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The final thing that's listed on

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there is the international insurance
premium. That is travel insurance.

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You do not have to do it.

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It's usually, I mean,

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you can see that it's a minimal amount
in the grand scheme of things.

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And it is important to do. After Covid,

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we have all learned that,
you know, the world falls around us,

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then we need to make sure
we have a little bit of extra coverage.

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And so the university really encourages
us to have students purchase this.

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It doesn't go through us.

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It's something that we can help
you identify vendors for.

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But it's an important aspect
to make sure that you're safe

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and covered
throughout the duration of your program.

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The example I've used before
is that we had students a couple of years

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ago, one student in particular, who,
went to the Geneva program

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after it was over,
went skiing and, broke his collarbone.

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impacted his flight and his travel home
and his international travel insurance

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helped him

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make sure that he didn't accrue
a lot of extra cost associated with that.

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So we just never know
what's going to happen.

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So this is the fee structure
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The only piece that I want to add to this
is that if you are a graduate student,

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then the credit hours are per credit hour,
just like you would have

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for any of your other
programs or your other fees.

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Funding. This is

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the, this is the hard part
is that it's expensive.

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I'm not going to lie.

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With study abroad,
there is true sticker shock.

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It's expensive, but there are sources
to help you pay for it.

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These are some of the scholarships
that are available through the university.

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So they've got their deadlines
and their amounts listed here.

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The ones that I really want to point out
first are your school-based scholarships.

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And so we have the public health
scholarship listed here.

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It's only open for students that are Fairbanks
School of Public Health students.

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But I encourage you to reach out to your
academic advisors in your home schools,

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because they should be able to tell you
what scholarships

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are available for study abroad
for students within your school.

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I would do that.

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The other two,

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the important piece I want to point out
are the top two scholarships.

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The international experience,
which is actually a it says varies

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because there's a couple of different
scholarships that fall under that one.

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And then the Shreve.
Those are study abroad based scholarships.

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And I sat on the review committee
for these scholarships for many years.

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I'm always amazed that there are not
more people that apply for these.

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And so I encourage you, take some time,
write a strong personal statement.

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It will help you.

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It will make a difference
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as many applicants for these as I think
that there could be or should be.

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So use that to your advantage and apply.

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students that are, first semester
freshmen,

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that planning scholarship,
that is directly for you.

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That's an amazing opportunity
that if you apply for it

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and you are awarded that scholarship, it's

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$3,000 that you can use at any point
over the next four years.

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So you don't have to study
abroad this year,

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if you decide that you want to do it
in your junior or senior year,

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then that $3,000 just sits there
in a little bank for you.

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And when you're ready to do,
you let us know,

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let the study abroad office know
and they apply that to your account.

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It's a, a lovely little bonus.

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And then the Honors College,
if you're an honors college student, then,

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you know, you have your scholarship,
your stipend there.

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The other question
that I get quite frequently is, well,

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what other options are out there, what
other funding opportunities are there?

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And as we're
moving into the holiday season,

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I like to remind people
that you can always say, instead

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of giving me a present this year, maybe,
you know, add that money to my

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my study abroad, bank, and for birthday
funds, those type of things.

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It's a nice way to build up money
somewhat passively.

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And the students have done
pretty well with that in the past.